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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackball View Post
    I really cannot see that someone just getting a job improves society. Nobody should be forced to take an unsuitable or menial job. Having a job does not automatically mean you are a better human being. Often it is the opposite. As said previously tax evasion costs society more.
    With regards to someone not being forced to take an unsuitable or menial job, that is perfectly fine as long as they don't expect someone who does to financially support their lifestyle choice. The majority of people work to live they don't live to work.

    No one has ever suggested having a job makes you a better human being, it simply means you have a means of survival in this big bad world. Civilised societies attempt to address the financial complications of being unfit to provide for yourself and family due to ill health or disability and that is correct. It doesn't have the finances to achieve all that it would like and that is just how it is. It has never stated it wants to support people's lifestyle choices, and it never could afford to.

    You are confusing 2totally separate things here.

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    'No one has ever suggested having a job makes you a better human being' That is certainly not the message conveyed by the media. Such words as 'scrounger' and 'deadbeat' are common terms to address the out of work. We are all evaluated by our job. We are all measured by our income. Though we may not like it. Finances are available and should be utilized to make all peoples lives more comfortable. Not spent on a ridiculous monarchy or a pathetic ineffective military. These elements are the real scroungers.

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    Report giving all the information you have. They should investigate and find clues from the pointers you can give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackball View Post
    'No one has ever suggested having a job makes you a better human being' That is certainly not the message conveyed by the media. Such words as 'scrounger' and 'deadbeat' are common terms to address the out of work. We are all evaluated by our job. We are all measured by our income. Though we may not like it. Finances are available and should be utilized to make all peoples lives more comfortable. Not spent on a ridiculous monarchy or a pathetic ineffective military. These elements are the real scroungers.

    Time you realised you live in a world run by people. Not Paradise or Brigadoon or some perfect world with fairy dust aplenty. Human nature doesn't have the capability of allowing total equality , just isn't part of human nature. As evidenced by millions all over the world and since since documented history began.

    Your angry posts are just further confirmation of this. Think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedomeagle View Post
    Well another new program about people on benefits, is it a glowing report of normal folks making the best of a bad situation???? No that would obviously just be unwatchable. I'm not saying these folks don't exist, but i'm sure there are more normal benefit recipients out there who do not spend massive amounts on mobile phone packages that don't eat only junk food, chain smoke and drink a ton of booze aweek!! I hadn't really thought it related to me I'm disabled, and have worked in the past, but then i was talking to one of my older nieghbours it came out she thought i'd taken early retirement due to my health problems, i said obviously I have health issues but because of these i'm on benefit she said but you aren't like the people off those documentaries on tv i said a lot of people aren't and after all it is tv.
    Also wish more programs would have disabled people in and show them living normal lives dealing with every day issues in their own way. Ok that's it just wanted to put that out there.
    Personally I find the whole emphasis on poverty porn hilarious. Every channel apart from ITV is at it at the moment. But then again ITV use to have motor mouth Katie Hopkins on their morning show to insult anyone claiming any form of state welfare.

    I understand other members concerns but I may as well tell you that these shows exist purely for ratings purposes. The main channels don't care about politics because all they care about is money in their pocket.

    While these shows are politically correct and do aid the current Governments ideology of shaming scroungers just be aware that we have had multiple shows before pitching class against class. This is nothing new. Its just that benefit claimants are the new scapegoat for what is going wrong in society.

    But ye that is bad for us. The disabled benefit claimant is classed as the top scrounger.

    I think our main problem as a group is that we aren't seen enough and people can label us as anything they like just as any political party could define the public interest in their political spin tactics.

    If we want positive documentaries about people on benefits then we need to create them. We need to become film makers and produce our own content to show everyone else in the country who we are.

    But just remember guys the populous of the UK will only take so much abuse before changing course for a new direction.

    The current Government has attacked everyone who is disenfranchised while it has made things better for people earning more than £15,000 per year. This will have huge consequences because outside London everyone else in still in a recession. I mean people don't feel this recovery do they? So the majority of people are low paid workers and those who are not working. I think its safe to say that there is going to be another hung parliament.

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    I have to pass though part of the area that was filmed as Benefit Street on my way to my weekly cardiac rehab session, especially now there are road works with diversions in place. I must say the place is a sh*t hole with well looked after houses inter spaced between.

    but when one simply looks at this as a sh*t hole filled with dole scum bags then you would be missing the real social problem! I also have to pass through the adjacent industrial zone where yesterday it employed forty thousand plus people, one of the GKN buildings s gone and is being used to store trailers, another is utilised as units selling carpets or get your car washed for £2 (if you know what I mean) the big steel and iron melting buildings are being pulled down as I type (it maybe to build more houses for people who have no chance of getting a job in).

    i agree there are some that don't want to work and for many the disability system is their main source of income and yes I moan about this because it makes life more difficult for those with disabilities. here in the West Midlands County there is not enough jobs to go around so it might be nice for TV to do a balanced 'SHOW' no just publicity and a golden glob. I have moaned about the number of none disabled making claims but here's a rough outline of a conversation at rehab this morning: I was moaning again about being refused a blue badge while I see cars displaying them with the people walking around with two shopping bags in one hand and two sticks hooked over the other arm, it happens to often to be all non-visual disabilities, I was then told that I am too honest and to answer the following; can I pick an empty box up to which I replied some times yes, some times no it depends how I feel at that point in time, too much information he said! The answer is no!! We were both resting after our one to one rehab sessions.

    so is it the social and benefit systems that set these things up or the people inside them or the scum bags?

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    Strange place the UK say anything remotely anti women and there is outcry. People get fired. But you can say or print anything derogatory about the unemployed or disabled that's fine.

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    'Time you realised you live in a world run by people. Not Paradise or Brigadoon or some perfect world with fairy dust aplenty. Human nature doesn't have the capability of allowing total equality , just isn't part of human nature. As evidenced by millions all over the world and since since documented history began'

    Who mentioned equality? Yes let's just accept the gross imbalance. But we can at least try to be fair. Paradise, Brigadoon and Fairy dust go much better with Queens, Castles and empires. All nonsense.

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    The Type Of Programmes Show On Tv Only Help The Politician's Put a False Image Of Live On Benefit's & Help Them To Make Their Welfare Reform More What The UK Needs To Balance The Books

    They Never Show The Genuine People Struggling On Benefit`s Having To Obtain Food From Food Banks Also Struggling To Obtain Employment
    They Also Never Show That They Pay Job Centre Staff For Apply Sanctions To A Claimants Which Is Like A Bonus Scheme
    As Reported By A Former Job Centre Manager
    But His story As Not Been Pickup By Panorama
    But They Continue To Keep The Saville Name In The Spotlight
    So The Injustices In The Welfare System Get A Brief Time In The Spotlight
    The News Now Report What goes In other Countries Than What Happens Here

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILLMAN View Post
    They Never Show The Genuine People Struggling On Benefit`s Having To Obtain Food From Food Banks Also Struggling To Obtain Employment
    They Also Never Show That They Pay Job Centre Staff For Apply Sanctions To A Claimants Which Is Like A Bonus Scheme
    As Reported By A Former Job Centre Manager
    But His story As Not Been Pickup By Panorama
    That is so very true.

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