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    DWP bringing in additional providers 'to improve' Work Capability Assessment

    So, the DWP are allegedly bringing in additional providers to improve Work Capability Assessment and to tackle the waiting times.
    Hmmmmmm. Not sure if this is good news or not. I wonder who they will appoint?

    http://www.covermagazine.co.uk/cover...ity-assessment

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivb View Post
    So, the DWP are allegedly bringing in additional providers to improve Work Capability Assessment and to tackle the waiting times.
    Hmmmmmm. Not sure if this is good news or not. I wonder who they will appoint?

    http://www.covermagazine.co.uk/cover...ity-assessment
    It def wont be good news if Atos train them

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    probably bad news whoever takes on the work will be working for the dwp contracted to kick us off benefits and if their cutting the waiting times well more people fit for work sooner and more appeals so appeal times may also be longer

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    These new groups are actually not what ATOS will want, because these firms will be out side of the control of ATOS, it's been said for a while that ATOS has no or little competition.

    But it will make no difference to us, a number of cases that have gone to the tribunal over the last twelve months has been so poor the tribunal had no choice but to find for the claimant. This is also why the DWP are reviewing all cases to try and stop this.

    The main fundamental issue has like always been with the WCA it's self, that's not changing.

    IN Wales capita will be the main firm doing the PIP's and to be honest this is going to be another of those cases of hammering the sick

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    Not sure if this will be good or not. But if it means the LIMA computer logic programme can't be used by the other firms due to ATOS copyright then it will be a good thing. Assessors were pressurised and advised not to deviate from the selection of LIMA scripted responses to questions they asked patients. Because it meant the logic programme ouldn't work out a decision and it also took the assessor much longer to complete the assessment, when they were under time constraints.

    I'm sure this resulted in many default and incorrect responses being selected instead of a more appropriate reposnse. This I think contributed to a lot of the 40% of less than adequate reports and decisions.

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    @sfu dwp own the copyright and gives atos a licence to use it, so there will not be a problem for dwp to issue more,

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    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...#ixzz2ZxEnRFM5

    So many people lauding this as win for the anti- WRAG lobby. You can be assured it will be nothing of the sort. The government are frustrated that not enough people are being pulled off ESA onto JSA to deliver the savings. This has nothing to do with quality of reporting. It's an opportunity to bring in additional and more robust assessments to achieve targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipmaster View Post
    @sfu dwp own the copyright and gives atos a licence to use it, so there will not be a problem for dwp to issue more,
    Didn't know that . Someone had legally challenged ATOS to disclose the medical protocol definitions which define the logic of this LIMA system and they'd said it was commercially sensitive. Had just assumed ATOS owned it. So that's not good then, could make things worse then with several agencies .

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    I'm with Tatty_Tat on this one and would be very surprised if it were intended for anything otherwise. But the problems with this system go far deeper than ATOS and all the way up to the Arch Engineer himself, Duncan Smith, though I don't think anything will happen there until we achieve a regime change.

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