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    Genius TT for finding that - one of my favourite MP clips.

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    TT its funny cos its true lol

    SB I'm full of sympathy for your situation and others who find themselves in similar situations, heat one room? I just got to bed or stay in bed! Now I sound like MP too, but no I should say empathy not sympathy, thing is you never moan or bitch at others about how hard life is for you, we're all in the same boat and I come on here to talk to other people who are disabled and know how it affects our lives, people like yourself about our lives and able bodied people however hard they try cant understand that, but I dont want to get dragged down by negative attitudes. As I said before its only a few but sometimes they kind of take over and I wonder if their attitudes stop other people posting.

    Hadn't left the discussion just took my old banger to the garage to have a cat welded into the exhaust otherwise I fear no MOT this year.

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    I'm sure the cat protested at being shoved into an exhaust lol. I understand what you are saying now hon, and I know some have been upset and left the forum, great shame.

    I am now back in the bungy, out of the heat - phew! put the TV on and watching superscrimpers. Some great ideas for moneysaving tips, I just can't write them down quick enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo-dicca View Post
    TT its funny cos its true lol

    SB I'm full of sympathy for your situation and others who find themselves in similar situations, heat one room? I just got to bed or stay in bed! Now I sound like MP too, but no I should say empathy not sympathy, thing is you never moan or bitch at others about how hard life is for you, we're all in the same boat and I come on here to talk to other people who are disabled and know how it affects our lives, people like yourself about our lives and able bodied people however hard they try cant understand that, but I dont want to get dragged down by negative attitudes. As I said before its only a few but sometimes they kind of take over and I wonder if their attitudes stop other people posting.

    Hadn't left the discussion just took my old banger to the garage to have a cat welded into the exhaust otherwise I fear no MOT this year.
    Who are these people let us know because I have not seen them on here.

    Also I know lots of carers who use to come to this site and I know they understood the problem people have , saying nobody knows what it like except those with the disability, I bet a lot of carers who are living on £57 a week can tell people about how hard it is.

    But name these people who are moaning on here, we have what eight nine people on here most are disabled or sick and I think one or two maybe carers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo-dicca View Post
    Reading the tone of the posts, too many of us are feeling angry and bitter with life and how we are actually being treated and also how we are percieving others are treating us.

    Please for those of us whose glass is struggling to stay half full will you either move to a more politically biased site or just search deep for your jolly gene and LIGHTEN UP!

    There is so much shit in the world, if you are on a computer now then it is highly unlikely you know the meaning of the word deprived so get a grip and get on with it!
    Well I understood perfetly where Boodica was coming from and tend to agree with a lot of this post. Recently we have seen a number of new posts complaining about how the disabled are being singled out etc etc. When it's really not the case tbh.

    While it perhaps helps people to vent anger at MP's etc about how they wont be happy until the disabled are extict or what ever, the government doesn't actually work like this, and has no such intentions. They sit at top level meetings and decide how much money is to be cut, then pass it down to the civil servants to work it out and enact the policy decisions. MP's don't know all the ins and outs of every individuals personal circumstances, or how they're affected. And even if they did what can they do when we just don't have the income to cover everything.

    I'd hate to be in government making decisons on what to cut or not to cut. Leave things as they are and the country goes bankrupt, cut something and those affected are up in arms.

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    I'm obviouously not explaining what I meant by deprived Treborc, let me put it another way, "there's so much shit in the world....." means IMO if you live in a third world country like India and are a normal, not privilaged (sp), individual and if you were unfortunate enough to be disabled then you probably would be sitting on the side of the road with a begging bowl, presumably you would then think that a person in this country, in their home moaning on about the government and other wealthy individuals and having budget cuts were the privilaged (am I spelling that right?) and therefore by default not deprived.

    As for the other point, no I dont know how your disability effects you, but i can empathise as a disabled person, you cannot know how my disability effects me can a carer empathise, nah, they can sympathise and they can do their best to help and god that's greatly recieved but only the individual understands their own disability and only other disabled people can get anywhere near to understanding how we each feel on a case by case basis, sorry have to disagree with you on that one.

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    I think its OK to have a grumble about our lot as people with disabilities, I do it sometimes BUT I feel that to get the most out of life we should try and be positive, then society will see us in a more positive light. Getting wrapped up in our disabilities and wearing a "I am disabled and angry about it" badge doesn't really do any good. Isn't it better to do something about it? "Be the change we want to see in the world " as Ghandi said.

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    Very good comment clivee, I always get up in the morning and think - what can I do to make my day brilliant or to make someone happy. The smallest things can mean a lot

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    What is the criteria for this Discussion Forum ? Oh yes, I remember now !!!

    "Have your say on what's going on in the world today. This forum is for discussion and debate on news, politics, social issues and general discussions."

    Maybe all the "moaning" sick and disabled should start "self flagellation", after all it is all their fault that the country is in such a state, so it is only right they they should suffer in silence.

    N.B. Self-Flagellation. "self-flag·el·la·tion (s lf fl j -l sh n). n. 1. The act of severely criticizing oneself. 2. The act of punishing oneself."

    Nothing at all to do with successive poor government, greedy business owners, and gambling bankers, they are completely innocent, aren't they ?

    The government have done a fine job in brainwashing the population as a whole. The people in low paid jobs demanding that the Welfare Benefits are cut. What they don't clearly understand that this is a race to the bottom.

    By cutting benefits, this make it less likely that their wage and working conditions will improve, as there will be a massive, needy, unemployed work force who will do that zero hours contract job cheaper than the next guy/gal.

    Can I please have a day's work, please sir !!! "Doffs Cap" and "Tugs Forelock" !!!!, and that's on the premise that you are fit and able. What if you are one of those who "Can't Work", rather than the ones who "Won't Work" ?

    If it had been a purely cost cutting exercise, they could have simply cut a small percentage off all benefits, where applicable. It is not just cost cutting is is ideological, and IDS is like some kind of religious zealot on a mission.

    This is my opinion, and as this is an open forum to "Have your say on what's going on in the world today. This forum is for discussion and debate on news, politics, social issues and general discussions."

    I see no valid reason not to voice it.

    It is possible to fight one's corner, and look on the bright side !!!, however it can be difficult to do so simultaneously, unless you are an excellent multi-tasker.

    As most sick and disabled suffer limitations in carrying out a lot of everyday tasks, this may well exclude them.
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    Whoa, that was a broadside blast vikstar.
    Maybe a seperate thread would have been a better idea.
    I am in total agreement of what you say, however I feel we live in an "I'm allright Jack" society and people will only fight injustice when it affects them, (yourself and others excluded).
    I was brought up a staunch socialist (not Labour) and have dedicated my life to others less fortunate, but over the years it has been harder and harder as capitalism has done for us all and I fear that we have gone past the point of no return and only a disaster of pandemic proportions will change the almighty mess we have created for ourselves.
    Looking on the bright side I hope every one on YA will be a survivor

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