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  1. #11
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    Hello Maureen & Katana, Try to keep it relevant, up to date and 'concise' yes, if you have very long histories and evidence of such (20yrs+) just mention that fact and tell they can have it if required and give them all the major points and evidence of the last few years.
    If at all unsure get the advice of CAB or some other org.
    All the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana View Post
    Dave for clarification,

    : is that for IB to ESA that was 15 sheets an extra 15 sheets of info above and on top of the ESA 50 form?

    Also mate, are you waiting to hear about ESA just now too? how far are you on the treadmill?
    I sent an extra 15 sheets on the move from IB to ESA I was put into the Support Group for 3 years without a medical. I asked them to review and asked for five but they said three is the max ........ witthout going into too much detail 4 sheets where the three legal papers for being blind plus a letter from the consultant explaining how I went blind and going into the problems that caused the blindness. 6 sheets where a detailed letter from one of my consultants explaining another health problem 2 letters from different nurses a physio report and a letter detailing why I am 60% disabled with a WP. From sending the ESA50 off to getting in support group took 5 weeks. In that time they misled my paperwork told me thye had got a copy from DWP who I also sent a copy and got back to me when they found it. Went a treat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davewhit View Post
    I sent an extra 15 sheets on the move from IB to ESA I was put into the Support Group for 3 years without a medical. I asked them to review and asked for five but they said three is the max ........ witthout going into too much detail 4 sheets where the three legal papers for being blind plus a letter from the consultant explaining how I went blind and going into the problems that caused the blindness. 6 sheets where a detailed letter from one of my consultants explaining another health problem 2 letters from different nurses a physio report and a letter detailing why I am 60% disabled with a WP. From sending the ESA50 off to getting in support group took 5 weeks. In that time they misled my paperwork told me thye had got a copy from DWP who I also sent a copy and got back to me when they found it. Went a treat.
    Damn, that flies in the face of what CAB told me with a straight face and NASS too ... *worried* I guess I'll just have to wait for medical time?

    The whole thing is worse than i thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana View Post
    Damn, that flies in the face of what CAB told me with a straight face and NASS too ... *worried* I guess I'll just have to wait for medical time?

    The whole thing is worse than i thought
    Like many others I have complex medical problems that are strange for someone of my age, I retired at 35 on full pension as they knew then I would not work again.

    What did cab say ?

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    Great advice here. May I just slip a quick question in for Katana? Regarding photocopied letters - can I just send a photocopied GP letter with my GL24 to appeal from WRAG to Support? Or, should it be original? Thanks, Susie

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    SUSIE: NEVER EVER send originals always copies of your documents, keep all originals for your file, may require um at a later date - Appeals etc. If they lose your (originals) your snookered

    As for their documents, GL24 etc, always make a copy of them and place in your file. You will then have a good chronological time line of your dealings with um - should you need it.
    Last edited by Jard; 18-05-13 at 18:12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana View Post
    Hi Maureen not yet, my ESA50 went off to ATOS in Edinburgh office on Friday (yesterday) recorded delivery, it has to be there by 22nd of this month Wed (next week) their offices are likely closed today so was told it will be there Monday at latest and for sure I will be checking the bar code online because I don't trust ATOS one bit.

    You are on same DLA rates as me Maureen and I was told in an earlier letter this year, this would not change until 2015 at earliest as it was one of the indefinite awards, but things chop and change and I can hardly keep up, only beginning to understand what Descriptors are.

    It sounds like you are doing everything correctly but I would personally beware of sending *everything* about your full medical record history straight away, like me you must have a long time of detailed medical history, sometimes its best to play your best cards close to your chest, from what I've read unless I'm extremely lucky, I'll have to attend a medical somehow ... I'll cross that bridge when I come to it now, but if it has to go to an appeal I do have 20+ years of medical records to use against ATOS or whoever thinks I'm fit, even if it costs me £50 for that info? but I've been lucky so far, two letters for free from my GP and specialist and a letter for free from NASS my specialist group in my spine disease, these professionals have been stars to me so far.

    Dont let them grind you down Maureen, glad you have someone to fight with you.

    PS: and I'm sure you know, anything you do send must be photocopied, dont send them originals.
    Hello Katana

    Thanks for the reply. Yes I will copy everything. I still have my DLA and IB forms from 10 years ago. Not quite sure how they have survived 3 months but they have ! I don't have a lot of evidence to send because once my spinal cord was de-tethered 7 years ago there was no need for me to see the neurosurgeon again because there was nothing more he could do. My disability has come from me not being diagnosed until 4 years after my symptoms started so the nerve damage had been done by the time he operated, so he operated to stop me from losing bowel function (I had already lost bladder function). I do have a letter from him saying he operated to stop me from getting worse and not to make me better, so I'm hoping that will help. i also have a really good OT from social services so she will be doing me a support letter too. I think I am going to send it all in at once and hope for the best. My depression/anxiety won't stand the stress of me possibly dragging it out when I could send everything at once.

    I did plan to spread the form out over the next couple of weeks but the anxiety of it is stressing me out so much its all I can think about and do, so I have spent hours on it all weekend, which of course is making my pain and stress all the worse. It seems ridiculous doesn't it that they make ill/disabled people worse by having to fill in these forms that are completely illegal in the first place.

    Just out of interest have you tried the benefits and work. com website they are really good

    best wishes

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    Quote Originally Posted by davewhit View Post
    Like many others I have complex medical problems that are strange for someone of my age, I retired at 35 on full pension as they knew then I would not work again.

    What did cab say ?
    Hello there

    Thanks for replying.

    I retired early like yourself, I was just 32 when I received my full NHS pension as they said I wouldn't work again. I did have to fight for over a year to get it because at that time I had no diagnosis, but I was so ill and had good evidence in the end I was awarded it for life at just 32 like I say. Its not a huge pension but I guess the point is that I have it.

    Should I mention (and send proof) that I have my NHS pension ?

    Just in case there is any confusion I have an NHS pension because I worked for the NHS for 10 years before I was retired on ill health grounds.

    Thanks everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maureen View Post
    Hello there

    Thanks for replying.

    I retired early like yourself, I was just 32 when I received my full NHS pension as they said I wouldn't work again. I did have to fight for over a year to get it because at that time I had no diagnosis, but I was so ill and had good evidence in the end I was awarded it for life at just 32 like I say. Its not a huge pension but I guess the point is that I have it.

    Should I mention (and send proof) that I have my NHS pension ?

    Just in case there is any confusion I have an NHS pension because I worked for the NHS for 10 years before I was retired on ill health grounds.

    Thanks everyone
    Sending proof of pensions is a good idea, the regulations for pensions are all different and some people get a pension but still could and are allowed to do other work teachers is a good example many stop full time work on pension then go back part time, so while a pension does not for sure makes the case it can help a lot.


    a year is not a long time to get a pension into pay most take longer, remember they are at the end of it are saying many cases over a 30 year period they will pay out a large amount the younger you are at the start the more it will cost them and they have to see what could happen in ten years time regards new treatment and getting better

    my service pension took 1 year war 2 years

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    Hi, I've just come across your thread. I didn't put 'everything' on my form, that was due to embarrassment/shame etc-I also didn't look for help in filling in the form. I have since done a lot of research, & contacted CAB-they then re-contacted me as I'd fulfilled their questions etc. I wish I had been more 'open' now! I'm off to see the Doc Monday, with a letter from CAB - hopefully all will be ok. (I have ill health/injury occupational pension). Good luck x

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