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    Bedroom Tax

    So the DWP say "However, with two million people on the housing waiting list and around one million empty bedrooms, it is only fair that we make proper use of social housing in this country."

    But there are NO one bedroom flats around, well not many well put out the people with empty bedrooms that will make three million homeless then put one million of people on the waiting list into the homes of the people you just put out, that will still make two million on the waiting list. The only people gonna makemoney out of this are Pickfords and other removal firms, am I right or not.Give me your views'

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    Quote Originally Posted by StueyR View Post
    So the DWP say "However, with two million people on the housing waiting list and around one million empty bedrooms, it is only fair that we make proper use of social housing in this country."

    But there are NO one bedroom flats around, well not many well put out the people with empty bedrooms that will make three million homeless then put one million of people on the waiting list into the homes of the people you just put out, that will still make two million on the waiting list. The only people gonna makemoney out of this are Pickfords and other removal firms, am I right or not.Give me your views'
    pickfords cant move people if there are no one bed houses to move into

    all you will see is every one coming up with fool proof ways of getting out of paying the tax that wont work, as fast as anyone comes up with something that might work it will be closed down with a change to the regulations


    we saw the same when ESA came in people said many reason why they should be moved without filling in the form and they did not need a medical people had a 100 reasons why they should go stright to support group

    if you have lived in a house for ten years and paid rent on a three bed house ... getting a tape measure out and now saying its a box room wont work ...... any judge would agree its a bed room

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    They're not anticipating everyone affected is going to move. They're banking on the fact many people will do without something somehow or other to cover the cost, as they prefer the security of social housing to that of the private rental sector. And people will be reluctant to give up a house they've viwed as their own for many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriouslyfedup View Post
    They're not anticipating everyone affected is going to move. They're banking on the fact many people will do without something somehow or other to cover the cost, as they prefer the security of social housing to that of the private rental sector. And people will be reluctant to give up a house they've viwed as their own for many years.
    Yes,they will make cutbacks to pay it, which is taking on average £14 per week per houshold so as the figures show, one million empty bedrooms @ £14.00 per week thats 14 million per week, 56 million per month, 672 million per year taken out of the ecconomy and they were saying that we are supposidly having a very week recovery of the ecconomy taking 572 million out of te eccomony just aint gonna help any recovery

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriouslyfedup View Post
    They're not anticipating everyone affected is going to move. They're banking on the fact many people will do without something somehow or other to cover the cost, as they prefer the security of social housing to that of the private rental sector. And people will be reluctant to give up a house they've viwed as their own for many years.
    Yes,they will make cutbacks to pay it, which is taking on average £14 per week per houshold so as the figures show, one million empty bedrooms @ £14.00 per week thats 14 million per week, 56 million per month, 672 million per year taken out of the ecconomy and they were saying that we are supposidly having a very weak recovery of the ecconomy taking 572 million out of te eccomony just aint gonna help any recovery "scuse my spelling"

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    Quote Originally Posted by StueyR View Post
    Yes,they will make cutbacks to pay it, which is taking on average £14 per week per houshold so as the figures show, one million empty bedrooms @ £14.00 per week thats 14 million per week, 56 million per month, 672 million per year taken out of the ecconomy and they were saying that we are supposidly having a very weak recovery of the ecconomy taking 572 million out of te eccomony just aint gonna help any recovery "scuse my spelling"
    there not bothered that the moneys taken out of the economy they look at it as less benefits paid

    and its pea nuts £572 million is nothing gdp in 2011 was £2.253 trillion

    that said your £572million might be low

    The Department for Work and Pensions has calculated 660,000 households across Britain will be affected by the policy, with an average reduction of £728. The NHF has used the regional breakdown provided by the department to estimate the number of people who will be affected in each constituency, and how much they will lose.

    http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/tenan...526018.article

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    I know if I lived in a rented property for years,decorated it and planted the garden over said years.I would pay up.There are many who take pride in their homes who will be forced to make financial decisions in the near future.People wont all of a sudden upsticks for smaller properties so they will pay up.Hence there wont be all these larger properties to move new tenants into.And where do they find all the smaller properties?They wont,its just more money for the coffers or less housing benefit to pay out.By the time they get less housing benefit,pay higher gas,electric,water,phone,tv licence,petrol/fares,prescriptions and food prices people will be just about able to afford enough money to put their heads in the gas oven!British people need to stand up and be counted,show we have backbones (even if they are arthritic!)and stop handing money and services to other EU members.

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    If your disabled lost DLA or PIP's and your placed onto the lower ESA, I think many people will have little choice. I suspect from now on the days of doing up council homes to make them better will be long gone, although if you do up a home the council can repay some money to you, so long as your home is what they call improved

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    Quote Originally Posted by davewhit View Post
    pickfords cant move people if there are no one bed houses to move into

    all you will see is every one coming up with fool proof ways of getting out of paying the tax that wont work, as fast as anyone comes up with something that might work it will be closed down with a change to the regulations


    we saw the same when ESA came in people said many reason why they should be moved without filling in the form and they did not need a medical people had a 100 reasons why they should go stright to support group

    if you have lived in a house for ten years and paid rent on a three bed house ... getting a tape measure out and now saying its a box room wont work ...... any judge would agree its a bed room
    Dave is correct in the above, Pickford will not make nearly as much money as the Government out of this "Scheme/Scam" they know damn well that there is not enough one bed roomed places for people to downgrade to, and this is how they will make money off of the poor and downtrodden along with the sick\Disabled and elderly, and as said before there are still people who "THINK" governments are great, but many can now see that they are not as great as they thought they were.

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    One of the problems with 1 bed properties is that a lot of them tend to be flats. This makes it impossible for a lot of disabled people to live in them. If you have difficulty walking or are in a wheelchair and the lift packs up, how are you meant to get out? Or get back to your flat if you have been out? Lower level flats, 2 or 3 storeys, do not generally have lifts at all, only stairs. If you are lucky, your council may have 1 bed bungalows, but these are like gold dust to get hold of.

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