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    New style ESA

    Hi.
    I hope someone will know the answer.

    After the last 4 years in employment my health has deteriorated to the point of work letting me go on ill health capability, thus I am claiming new style ESA from 8th December 2020.

    I have sent the ESA50 and all available medical evidence available both NHS and private medical reports, but looking online at my GP records the DWP have asked for a gp report.

    Any idea if this in normal as the last time I claimed in 2016 this never happened and I was in the support group.

    thanks in advance.

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    Yes fairly normal anyway, and as they are not doing any Face to Face assessments during Covid they have to get evidence where they can.

    By the same token though most GP's are busy with covid and vaccinations, on top of their regular work, and so do not have time to do the DWP's job for them.

    You may, probably will, have a Work Capability Assessment by telephone.
    At the moment the only decision that are making for new claims is 'Stay on Assessment rate ESA until we can do a F2F' or 'Go into Support Group'.
    You cannot be found Fit for Work without first having a Face to Face assessment, and as they are not doing those you cannot currently be found FFW.
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    The GP did send details back yesterday 18/01/21.

    I thought my ESA50 and the 4 different medical specialist reports would have been more than enough.

    Thanks Nuke.

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    A quick update.

    Finally had a telephone assessment on the 27th April 2021 and the assessor ( who seemed quite pleasant and informal) did say they were only going to ask about physical aspect as they had enough medical evidence for my mental capabilities caused by a serious car accident in 2019.

    The interview took around 50 mins to complete and she wouldn't give any indication with regards to which group or if I was fit to work unlike a previous assessment in 2016.

    Really not sure how to interpret these telephone assessments.

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    Thanks for reporting your experience, I'm sure others will also be interested to hear what it was like.

    The assessors are not supposed to say what the outcome may be, (although they sometimes do), because when it comes down to it it's not their decision to make.

    The DWP Decision Maker is the one who decides based the opinion of the assessor (and any other evidence they have).

    PS. Things have changed again since your previous posts in January and the DMs can now make all decision outcomes following a telephone assessment.
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    I did see that now you can be found fit be telephone assessment but this was not mentioned at the start of my interview, the only clue she did give was that it was to determine how much money I would be getting.

    I did mention that in early 2016 I was placed in the support group and now I am worse than then but it seemed to pass her by.

    Mainly it was just to confirm what I had written on the ESA50 and I was prepared to confirm as I had copy of it as sent in.

    I was a little shocked that the Mental, Cognitive and Intellectual functions were not discussed just the physical aspects despite me sending in a 10 page physiological report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markt1968 View Post
    Mainly it was just to confirm what I had written on the ESA50 and I was prepared to confirm as I had copy of it as sent in.

    I was a little shocked that the Mental, Cognitive and Intellectual functions were not discussed just the physical aspects despite me sending in a 10 page physiological report.
    That's probably because what you had sent was plenty and so didn't need any discussion.

    TBH It was probably enough on it's own without the phone call about the physical descriptors, but the assessment company gets paid per-assessment so making the phone call shows that they have done something more than just look at the papers.
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    I will keep updating as soon as I get a decision and as my claim was due to an serious car accident today and I received a letter from the Compensation recovery unit.

    The Compensation Recovery Unit recovers social security benefits in certain compensation cases and NHS costs in certain injury cases which when I get compensated the other side pays for the benefits which I am claiming at the time.

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