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    DWP set Mandatory Reconsideration failure rate

    Yes, it's true.

    The DWP have set an 80% target to uphold original decisions when you apply for Mandatory Reconsideration.

    In the April 2016 - March 2017 it was actually 87.5% for all benefits!

    http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2017/...jection-target

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    Good statement from the DWP there; to paraphrase-

    "We set the target for upholding MR's at 80% to prove that 80% of original decisions were correct".

    Did their mums never tell them that 'two wrongs don't make a right'?
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    First there was the statement, by Esther McVey, IDS et al, a few years ago, along the lines of 'under these changes we look to save 20% on the benefits budget', then the preventing of reports and numbers of suicides relating to sanctions and more stringent tests for ESA and unemployment benefits. Then we are told, reviews of the use of recording of assessments, would/does not reflect an improvement in accuracy of assessments and reports, for disability/long term illness related benefits.

    When it is boiled down, when the DWP and others, including some think tanks, gather data on how these new benefits and approaches, are working. Things are just hunky-dory, and the statistics support this.

    Now, I'm not one for general conspiracy theories, but here due to my own experience, I have thought that things are slightly stacked against us. But one phrase keeps popping into my head every time I have heard Gov. sources using their figures on these things:

    Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics.

    But as I say, my view on this is slightly biased. As my research proves 100% that the system doesn't work as it is. Not forgetting of course this is based on a small sample size of 1 (One).

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    I might be being cynical but isn`t something missing when considering the percentage figures for original decisions upheld at MR?
    I would suggest that the 80% target and actual 87.5% of original decisions upheld at MR does not include those claimants, myself included, who had their claim reassessed at MR and the descriptor(s) for one (or more) activity was reconsidered and score went down at MR, thus the claimant`s total score was less than in the original decision; so that is not upholding the original decision.

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    Makes no sense theoretically what happens if 100% of claims at the mandatory reconsideration are genuine .valid claims .Using this little tit bit in my appeal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbara1951 View Post
    Makes no sense theoretically what happens if 100% of claims at the mandatory reconsideration are genuine .valid claims .Using this little tit bit in my appeal
    their targets are bs, the actual figures for MR's being successful down to under 10% of esa cases from over 50% when it was first implemented those are facts and not some bs targets, and how can the DWP reliably conduct MR's without medically qualified staff doing them?

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    There is an old saying-

    "In politics there are lies, damm lies, and statistics."

    Percentages in particular can be manipulated.

    You can show almost anything you want to with percentages.
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    Point is how can you give targets for the staff at the DWP .They are in an absolute mess .It has come down to a lottery

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    I have a first in pure maths I wrote a little tone back in the seventies how to lie with statistics (it was published ) and I spent ten years back then in the civil service Senior Exec .Back then I was a servant of the Crown and The people not the government .I know the mess the whole Civil service is in while foreign companies are laughing all the way to the bank

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    Follow the money some assessors are being paid £95 an assessment Atos and Capita will just bullshit all the way to the bank .All they needed to do was leave it up to the GPS and specialists because paying them for med evidence would have been cheaper than Atos and Capita and instead of employing more presenting officers employ more fraud officers .instead of putting people who are already ill through this farce

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